India's Dream Cricket Test Team

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Re: India's Dream Cricket Test Team

Postby prasen9 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:54 pm

But the good thing of all this was that it brought our "guest" bear out of hibernation :D Glad to "hear" your voice again.

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Re: India's Dream Cricket Test Team

Postby Varma » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:06 pm

Amen! :)

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Re: India's Dream Cricket Test Team

Postby gbelday » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:56 pm

Didn't catch up on all the posts yet but are we only going by batting averages? In ODI, the rate at which they score also matters. I wonder how many overs Shastri took to score those runs in ODIs. I am not a fan!

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Re: India's Dream Cricket Test Team

Postby prasen9 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:28 pm

Gautam, yep, you did not catch up :-) We are talking tests only. Sin Hombre's suggestion of Shastri for abroad platooned with Siddhu for home tests makes sense to me given RJS' batting in Australia, Pakistan, and even WI.

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Re: India's Dream Cricket Test Team

Postby jayakris » Wed Dec 14, 2016 1:01 am

Varma wrote:
Atithee wrote:...he disputed an umpire¹s decision only once, recalling Bob Taylor in the Golden Jubilee match against England in 1979-80. It cost him the Test, one of only two where he led India, but to Vishy, it mattered more that the game should be played fair.
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I never knew about this part of Vishy's career. My hats off to the legend :notworthy: !
Thanks for sharing it, Atithee.
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Yeah, the son of a gun did that. I remember being mad like nobody's business when he did that. The guy had walked almost to the edge of the field when Vishwanath called him back in. I remember reading that he couldn't have done that had the guy walked another 2-3 more steps (not sure if that was indeed true). Mind you, this was the time when we really had not had any nasty characters in sports and we were sick of losing and being known as "nice guys". This was against England, that too. Those busters creating the Sudhir Naik socks incident was still fresh in my mind (not to mention the John Lever vaseline crap). And then of course those were days when we were still a second tier cricketing nation behind Eng, Aus and WI... Losing to England in that important test was not Okay, and Vishy showing magnanimity did not sit well with me. Still doesn't, as it was against the piddly island nation.

But Vishy was a good man, and a great batsman!

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Re: India's Dream Cricket Test Team

Postby Sin Hombre » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:30 am

Atithee wrote:What's Sehwag's std deviation? I've never considered him an automatic selection. I'd rather have a Vijay than Sehwag in my test team. Now, how's that for a controversial selection?


Vijay is pretty bad in that regard. 22/41 innings away from home have been less than 20.

Gambhir would be a better candidate if that is a selection criteria. 14/39 innings away from home have been 50 or higher and only 16 less than 20 (10 of which were in the last 13).

In his first 26 innings away from home, Gambhir went past fifty 13 times (50%) and was dismissed under 20 just three times (14%). Those are phenomenally consistent numbers.

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Re: India's Dream Cricket Test Team

Postby Atithee » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:16 pm

Definitely. Gambhir of the early years would be someone I'd have over Sehwag. And over Vijay. An opening partnership of almost 100 runs or at least 30 overs is crucial for any team and for Indian team in particular. You want at least one opener to hit a 50 in every match. There's no guarantee but Gambhir is a deserving candidate.

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Re: India's Dream Cricket Test Team

Postby PKBasu » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:57 am

jayakris wrote:
Varma wrote:
Atithee wrote:...he disputed an umpire¹s decision only once, recalling Bob Taylor in the Golden Jubilee match against England in 1979-80. It cost him the Test, one of only two where he led India, but to Vishy, it mattered more that the game should be played fair.
H Natarajan

I never knew about this part of Vishy's career. My hats off to the legend :notworthy: !
Thanks for sharing it, Atithee.
- Varma

Yeah, the son of a gun did that. I remember being mad like nobody's business when he did that. The guy had walked almost to the edge of the field when Vishwanath called him back in. I remember reading that he couldn't have done that had the guy walked another 2-3 more steps (not sure if that was indeed true). Mind you, this was the time when we really had not had any nasty characters in sports and we were sick of losing and being known as "nice guys". This was against England, that too. Those busters creating the Sudhir Naik socks incident was still fresh in my mind (not to mention the John Lever vaseline crap). And then of course those were days when we were still a second tier cricketing nation behind Eng, Aus and WI... Losing to England in that important test was not Okay, and Vishy showing magnanimity did not sit well with me. Still doesn't, as it was against the piddly island nation.

But Vishy was a good man, and a great batsman!


Unforgettable episode, and my sentiments exactly. It ensured that Vishy would never be a permanent captain of India (he was thought "too soft", and in a sad sort of way that was probably true). Lovable guy who played some glorious innings in his inimitable way. (This was in the Jubilee Test, which turned out to be a great one for Ian Botham).

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Re: India's Dream Cricket Test Team

Postby crickspoluv » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:19 am

No team is complete without Dhoni.

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Re: India's Dream Cricket Test Team

Postby prasen9 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:25 am

Dhoni was pretty adequate to good as a keeper especially in his later years. His stumpings had become silken. If we really need a solid keeper, I would take Kirmani. But, on the balance, given that we value runs (and analytically that makes sense), Dhoni should be the wicket-keeper.


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