T20 World Cup, 2016

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby PKBasu » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:18 pm

Good news that Manish Pandey is now in the squad as a cover for Yuvi. If the latter is injured until the SF, then Pandey can be brought in -- and that will automatically improve the batting, as Raina is a misfit at #4 but will be better suited to bat at #5 or 6 (behind Dhoni). With Pandey at #4, it may also be worth trying Rahane in place of either Dhawan or Rohit. (Since Dhawan is much the better fielder, I would drop Rohit, but I doubt Shastri will).

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby ankit1407 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:04 pm

Well not sure if any of the opener will be dropped but if one has to then i hope its Dhawan....also not sure what criteria suggests dhawan is a better fielder compare to Rohit.

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby sameerph » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:36 pm

Yes, IMO Rohit is a better fielder than Dhawan and also a much more proven match winner than him. It is true that Rohit is so inconsistent but so is Dhawan.

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby PKBasu » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:01 pm

Rohit's run of scores in T20Is this year (apart from a 39 against UAE) are as follows: 0, 15, 1, 10, 5, 10, 18, 12.
Dhawan's scores (apart from the 16* against UAE) are: 2, 1, 60, 1, 6, 23, 13.

An opening batsman who fails to reach 20 in 8 successive innings is doing really badly in his role, and now deserves to sit out (objectively speaking). Dhawan has been Man of the Match in one key game (the Asia Cup final), and made one other score above 20, so objectively speaking he is less deserving of the chop than Rohit. (Basically, Rohit is averaging slightly less than 9 runs an innings, while Dhawan is averaging slightly more than 15 runs an innings; neither stellar, but Rohit much worse; add in the UAE game, and Rohit's average rises to 12.2 while Dhawan's rises to 17.4 -- not changing the conclusions in any way).

Besides, with Rahane and Dhawan opening, we still preserve a right-left combination which disrupts the bowlers and fielders.

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby prasen9 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:21 pm

So you want to replace one of these guys with someone who has scored: 3, 8, 33, 4, 4, 25, 22*, 0 in his last eight matches since April, 2014. 99 runs in 7 outs for an average of 14.1. Which is about the same as the lean patches the other two are facing. At least Rohit has scored in T20Is in the past. Rahane never has. I am not saying that Rahane should not play. I am saying that I do not have much faith in Rahane given his lack of scores. I would very much welcome Manish Pandey, who is more of a blank slate and has played well in the IPL in the past.

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby arjun2761 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:52 pm

Would love to see Manish Pandey play in the SF and hopefully the finals.

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby PKBasu » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:27 am

prasen9 wrote:So you want to replace one of these guys with someone who has scored: 3, 8, 33, 4, 4, 25, 22*, 0 in his last eight matches since April, 2014. 99 runs in 7 outs for an average of 14.1. Which is about the same as the lean patches the other two are facing. At least Rohit has scored in T20Is in the past. Rahane never has. I am not saying that Rahane should not play. I am saying that I do not have much faith in Rahane given his lack of scores. I would very much welcome Manish Pandey, who is more of a blank slate and has played well in the IPL in the past.


I would prefer to have Manish Pandey in the side first of all, but he can only come in if Yuvi is injured and is officially replaced in the squad.
I am not advocating that Rahane should definitely be in the XI, but making the point that the first one who deserves to be dropped is Rohit, not Dhawan. Also, Dhawan-Rahane would preserve the right-left combination. Unfortunately, the chances of Rohit being dropped are close to zero.

Ideally, Manish Pandey comes in and bats at #4, Raina moves down to #5. That will add a great deal of stability to the middle order. The choice of replacing an opener is an optional extra (but I doubt the management will risk it).

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby sameerph » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:26 am

It is confirmed now. Manish Pande in for injured Yuvraj for the rest of the tournament.

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby PKBasu » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:29 am

The one truly bizarre thing about this is that Manish Pandey hasn't played a competitive cricket match since that century in the last ODI against Australia. Surely he could have played the Irani trophy match. Now, he will clearly be rusty -- but, of course, he will be just as hungry for success as he was in Australia (which will hopefully negate the fact that he is physically rusty).

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby sameerph » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:19 pm

PKB, you get your wish partly.Pandey for Yuvraj and Rahane for Dhawan. India batting first.

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby ankit1407 » Thu Mar 31, 2016 2:44 pm

10 over 86 but after 16 its just 133..
..poor last 6 over inspite of having 9 wkts in hans...

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby Prashant » Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:04 pm

Virat Kohli's sublime run continues. He has hauled India to a competitive total. If Gayle fires, I think India are still short though.

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby ankit1407 » Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:07 pm

So we double our score and finish with 192

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby arjun2761 » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:14 pm

ankit1407 wrote:So we double our score and finish with 192


We get 106 in the last 10 after 86 in the first 10, so a little more than doubling our score. However, Rahane stuck around a tad too long, otherwise we'd probably have scored over 200...

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Re: T20 World Cup, 2016

Postby ankit1407 » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:48 pm

Thats the reason we needed more...WI should win from here


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