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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby PKBasu » Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:24 pm

[QF] (3) Andre Begemann (GER)/ Leander Paes (IND) d. Fabricio Neis (BRA)/ Joao Souza (BRA) 64 57 10-8

STB time:
1-0
2-0 minibk
2-1
3-1 LP hold (mini)
4-1 ditto
4-2
5-2 minibk (excellent servce return by LP)
5-3 minibr given back (Bege miss)
5-4 ditto (LP misses overhead)
5-5, 5-6, 6-6. 7-6
7-7, 7-8, 8-8,
9-8
10-8 LP volley finishes it off on opponent's serve.

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby jaydeep » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:50 pm

Leander also in the final with his German partner Andre Begemann ... They scored straight sets win over 2nd seed Cerretani and Oswald.
In the final they r facing top-seed Slovak-Chilean pair.

At $100K+H Biella Challenger, Italy (Clay)

[SF] (3) Andre Begemann (GER)/ Leander Paes (IND) bt (2) James Cerretani (USA)/ Philipp Oswald (AUT) 63 64

[F] (3) Andre Begemann (GER)/ Leander Paes (IND) vs (1) Andrej Martin (SVK)/ Hans Podipnik-Castillo (CHI)

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby jaydeep » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:05 am

Lee lifts Biella Challenger title with his German partner Andre Begemann beating top-seed pair comfortably ... Lee-Andre saved few break points on their serves and converted their first break point chance on Podipnik-Castillo's serve in 9th game for winning the first set ... In the second set Lee-Andre broke Andrej is 5th game for taking 4-2 lead ... And kept that advantage for completing straight sets victory

At $100K+H Biella Challenger, Italy (Clay)

Doubles Final
(3) Andre Begemann (GER)/ Leander Paes (IND) bt (1) Andrej Martin (SVK)/ Hans Podipnik-Castillo (CHI) 64 64

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby PKBasu » Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:46 pm

The 43 year old keeps defying the naysayers. Congrats Leander!

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby PKBasu » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:57 am

Paes/Begemann are gearing up for the US Open by playing at the Winston-Salem Open this week, although they needed a wildcard to get into the main draw.

They play SA/Guccione in R1.

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Postby PKBasu » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:26 am

Looks like Begemann used a protected ranking to get into the USO main draw, as his actual doubles ranking is 140 currently -- and Paes/Begemann had a combined ranking of well over 200 at the time that the USO doubles draw cut was made.
Begemann has a career-high of only 36 (in May 2015), so he is an odd choice of partner for Leander.
Divij (68) is now ranked just above Leander (72) and Purav (74) in the individual doubles rankings.

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby PKBasu » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:31 am

I'm not sure if we have done this before, but here are Leander's doubles partners who won their first Slam titles only after Leander began partnering them (* asterisk indicates that those were the only Slam men's doubles titles that player won):
Mahesh Bhupathi
Lukas Dlouhy *
Radek Stepanek *
Martin Damm *

This is what someone like Begemann must be hoping will rub-off on him!

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby sameerph » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:13 am

PKBasu wrote:Looks like Begemann used a protected ranking to get into the USO main draw, as his actual doubles ranking is 140 currently -- and Paes/Begemann had a combined ranking of well over 200 at the time that the USO doubles draw cut was made.


Yes, Begemann is using his protected ranking of 62 to enter US open along with Leander. Both of them played together in Biella challenger in Italy last month and won that title.

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby jayakris » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:22 am

PKBasu wrote:I'm not sure if we have done this before, but here are Leander's doubles partners who won their first Slam titles only after Leander began partnering them (* asterisk indicates that those were the only Slam men's doubles titles that player won):
Mahesh Bhupathi
Lukas Dlouhy *
Radek Stepanek *
Martin Damm *

That says a lot about what an amazingly good grand slam doubles player LP has been (just as he has been in Davis Cup too). Unfortunately, he has never been able to have correct chemistry with his partner at Olympics to get us a medal. Too much baggage and bad karma among LP, MB, RB and SM for that to have happened. It's unbelievable that these four top-10 doubles players in the world, with 3 of them reaching #1 rankings too, could never get us even a bronze. They have only themselves to blame (and I think Sania deserves the least blame, possibly).

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby PKBasu » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:25 am

The basic problem has always been, from my understanding, that LP wants to be the leader of the pair -- the motivator and strategizer. Eventually MB chafed under such a regime, feeling that he was LP's equal. RB never bought into it, for whatever reason. With his MxD partners, LP adds a dash of chivalry, so he isn't as overt a leader of the pair (especially with someone like a Martina -- N or H).
The chemistry with Sania deteriorated partly because Sania was closer to MB, and MB/RB practised with her at her academy or theirs over the years, and LP was consequently isolated. It is just a sad chapter in our tennis history.

Anyway, 32-year-old Andre Begemann seems quite happy to let the 43-year-old lead, and the team are in the SF at Winston-Salem without dropping a set!

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby jayakris » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:40 am

^^^ The problem is that LP is just a complicated person. He really is. He thinks in different ways, and he does things in his own ways. Can't read what is in his mind sometimes. He is not always correct in his analysis of things either. But many geniuses in various endeavors like arts and sports are like that. I have always called him an enigma, for this reason. But the fact is that there have always been a lot of players who didn't get along with Lee. Some people love him to death for a while for how sweet he can be, and then you find the same people wanting to kill him one fine day. His relationships with most other players have gone up and down like that over the years. Unfortunately, none of it ever helped us in Olympics. It has worked in Davis Cup because players can just decide to put things behind with LP (and vice versa) and be professional for one double match for a day. Winning 4 in a row for a medal is another matter, as mental equations invariably come into play, affecting Lee and his partner. When adversity strikes, bad karma in players' minds is a killer. Once failure happens, it brings in even more pressure, as the Indian press and fans are always expecting too much whenever anybody is playing with LP in any doubles draw, imagining LP as a magician, which he cannot always be. Then failure happens, and it would affect LP and his doubles or MxD partner in another draw they are in too. The end result is that nobody gets a medal. It is unfortunate. Certainly can't put all the blame on LP for all that. He is what he is. An enigma, but there is no mystery in his being an enigma, which everybody should know. Everybody needs to be professional and do their job, and they have all failed to do that.

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby sameerph » Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:11 am

Yes, with all his doubles prowess and his success on the tour, it is ironic that he has only a singles bronze to show at the Olympics and nothing for doubles. His inability to get along with his partners could have lost him a chance to become India's second double medallist (Sushil Kumar is the only one at present).

Same hold true for Mahesh too but then relatively speaking he had lesser success on the tour.

They did get some bad draws though at Olympics losing to eventual silver medallists Woodies in 2000 and eventual gold medallists Fed-Wawa in 2008. I think their best chance came in 2004 when they lost in that marathon tie break in the bronze medal match.

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby jaydeep » Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:54 pm

Leander's interview after his first round US open loss.

Leander Paes: I've won 18 grand slams, it's all fun now
"Everyone can be great when they're going well," he said. "Who can be great when you're down -- that's a true champion."

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby arjun2761 » Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:24 pm

Did watch a part of the final set. While he did seem like the best doubles player of the 4, he made 3 unforced errors on his serve at 4-2 (?) which likely cost them the match. He missed a simple overhead, a put away at the net and had a double fault which cost them that break. In fact, he and his partner missed a couple of simple overheads later as well, so it was quite an error prone performance in the 3rd set.

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Re: Leander Paes thread...

Postby jaydeep » Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:25 pm

Lee-Andre playing in Kremlin cup and facing Croatian pair.

At $717K Kremlin Cup, Moscow, Russia

[R1] (PR) Andre Begemann (GER)/ Leander Paes (IND) vs Nikola Mektic (CRO)/ Antonio Sancic (CRO)


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